• all you have to do is rock and roll and that's all

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Etta James on Fri Aug 8 21:03:50 2025
    Hey Etta!

    I like this better than the last kv-6.16.0 root/boot, mpstly because of gpm mouse on the console. Also note the brand spanking new gcc.

    <Esc>:read /proc/version
    Linux version 6.15.9 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 15.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.45) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 8 16:03:20 UTC 2025

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    o- o- -o o- -o o- -o -o -o -o o- o- o- -o -o -o /) /) (\ /) (\ /) (\ (\ (\ (\ /) /) /) (\ (\ (\ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Aug 8 19:30:36 2025
    I like this better than the last kv-6.16.0 root/boot, mpstly because of gpm mouse on the console. Also note the brand spanking new gcc.

    I noticed that too. My desktop is 6.16.0 but I've held the others at 6.15.* for now.

    <Esc>:read /proc/version
    Linux version 6.15.9 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 15.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.45) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 8 16:03:20 UTC 2025

    Indeed, I think GCC needed an update for glibc-2.42.

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 9 04:01:11 2025
    Hey Alan!

    I noticed that too. My desktop is 6.16.0 but I've held the others
    at 6.15.* for now.

    I considered doing the same but opted out for 6.15.9 due to the mouse thingy. It works, and probably is safer for cut n' pasting on the commandline, but I was more annoyed than having a secure feeling.

    Indeed, I think GCC needed an update for glibc-2.42.

    A recent 15.1.1 snapshot also works.

    Дуже груви,
    Maurice

    o- o- o- o-
    /) /) /) /)
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Ellen sceal on eorle; ecg sceal wið hellme hilde gebidan.
    Courage belongs in a warrior; sword against helmet shall face battle.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.53423 to Alan Ianson on Tue Aug 19 19:56:23 2025
    Hey Alan!

    <Esc>:read /proc/version
    Linux version 6.16.1 (root@amiitoo) (gcc (GCC) 15.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.45) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Aug 19 03:33:54 UTC 2025

    I decided to follow your lead and get used to the mouse cut `n paste commandline thingy. I liken it to 'a chamber of sober second thought' nothing like the Canadian Senate but I couldn't come up with anything better at the moment.

    The above kernel took around 38 minutes, building and packaging (tar.xz), on a 16 penguin EPYC processor. The fastest I currently have - a 16 penguin Ryzen 7 - accomplished the same task in roughly 33 minutes.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    -o -o o- o- -o o- o- -o o- o- -o o- -o o- -o -o
    (\ (\ /) /) (\ /) /) (\ /) /) (\ /) (\ /) (\ (\
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Maurice Kinal on Tue Aug 19 22:13:12 2025
    Hey Alan!

    <Esc>:read /proc/version
    Linux version 6.16.1 (root@amiitoo) (gcc (GCC) 15.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.45) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Aug 19 03:33:54 UTC 2025

    I decided to follow your lead and get used to the mouse cut `n paste commandline thingy. I liken it to 'a chamber of sober second thought' nothing like the Canadian Senate but I couldn't come up with anything better at the moment.

    I have moved everything upto 6.16.1 now as well. That cut 'n paste thing kind of boggles my muscle memory but I'm getting used to it.. ;)

    The above kernel took around 38 minutes, building and packaging (tar.xz), on a 16 penguin EPYC processor. The fastest I currently have - a 16 penguin Ryzen - accomplished the same task in roughly 33 minutes.

    I haven't timed it but I think it takes about the same here. My desktop has just two penguins and my BBS machine and laptop have four. I'll get upgraded here at some point!

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 20 21:17:12 2025
    Hey Alan!

    That cut 'n paste thing kind of boggles my muscle memory but I'm
    getting used to it.. ;)

    Well put. The above speaks to me.

    BBS machine and laptop have four.

    I've forgotten about the laptop. It also has four. I haven't used it for awhile and probably should get it up to speed. I am not fond of laptops but in this case it makes a good platform for testing mobile gps apps that I haven't played with in quite some time now. Not sure why that is given all the past work I put into it.

    I'll get upgraded here at some point!

    Me too. I seriously doubt it'll be a threadripper or anything in that class but I think I've seen enough of mini-PCs and would more than likely go for a lowpower draw mini-itx based system. I am not holding my breath though and the current plan is to make do with what I have. The wireless hotpots (two) seem to be fairly stable. Nobody is complaining ... yet.

    Дуже груви,
    Maurice

    o- -o o- o-
    /) (\ /) /)
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Sorg bið swarost byrðen, slæp bið deaðe gelicost.
    Sorrow is the heaviest burden, sleep is most like death.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Mon Sep 1 12:04:16 2025
    Hello Maurice!

    08 Aug 2025 21:03, Maurice Kinal wrote to Etta James:

    Hey Etta!

    +1

    I like this better than the last kv-6.16.0 root/boot, mpstly because
    of gpm mouse on the console. Also note the brand spanking new gcc.

    +1

    <Esc>:read /proc/version
    Linux version 6.15.9 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 15.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.45) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 8 16:03:20 UTC 2025

    if it compiles well with gcc 1.0 its stable c++ code :)

    dovecot add incompatible config changes to 2.4, this means for me and my custommers downtime, or i need to make a new dovecot server, where the old postfix server stay, since postfix do not make incompatible config changes

    dumm people in finland :)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/6.15.8-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Mon Sep 1 14:10:26 2025
    Hej Benny!

    Hey Etta!

    +1

    For sure.

    However since then I broke down and am deploying kv-6.16.x kernels again.

    if it compiles well with gcc 1.0 its stable c++ code :)

    Myself, I'd settle for gcc 4 with straight c code. Good luck with that. :-(

    dovecot add incompatible config changes to 2.4,

    The heathen bastards!!!

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    -o -o o- -o
    (\ (\ /) (\
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Nafað ænig mann freonda to fela.
    No one can have too many friends.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Tue Sep 2 19:20:54 2025
    Hello Maurice!

    01 Sep 2025 14:10, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    However since then I broke down and am deploying kv-6.16.x kernels
    again.

    did it fail ?

    if it compiles well with gcc 1.0 its stable c++ code :)

    Myself, I'd settle for gcc 4 with straight c code. Good luck with
    that. :-(

    i just keep it gentoo, others try pentoo :)

    dovecot add incompatible config changes to 2.4,

    The heathen bastards!!!

    gentoo maintainers will keep 2.3 if it 2.4 fails to much, qestions if dovecot maintainers dont care, if i find to many bugs in dovecot i will redo with cyrus-imapd

    but this require me to make a new mail storage host, and raise my deploy price :/


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/6.16.4-gentoo-dist (x86_64))
    * Origin: gopher://fido.junc.eu/ (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Tue Sep 2 20:29:07 2025
    Hej Benny!

    However since then I broke down and am deploying kv-6.16.x kernels
    again.

    did it fail ?

    No but I didn't wish to be caught with an EOL kernel and didn't want to fall back to the latest longterm 6.12.x kernel. I seem to prefer playing with the latest.

    i just keep it gentoo, others try pentoo :)

    pentoo? Is this one of gentoo's bastard children? Is gentoo turning into debian?

    but this require me to make a new mail storage host, and raise my
    deploy price :/

    That can and does happen.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    o- -o o- o-
    /) (\ /) /)
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    ... Bliþe sceal bealoleas heorte.
    Happy is the guiltless heart.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.3.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
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