• Pie Crust

    From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Mon Jan 12 13:01:43 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Yes, haven't heard from the latter in years. Dale Shipp passed away last year; he and Gail isssued us a standing invitation for whenever we drove

    I think i saw some of Dale Shipp's last messages. If i remember
    correctly, he gave me a bean salad recipe, and said his son used while in the military overseas.

    Actually, i think i remembered incorrectly... i think it was Sean
    Dennis who gave me the bean salad recipe.

    Doesn't make much matter; you have--and enjoy--the bean salad. One time, instead of using the usual kidney, yellow and green beans, I made it
    with black beans, white beans (forget which type) and kidney beans, just
    for something different. It was still 3 bean salad, just made with other
    than the same old 3 beans. (G)


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Mon Jan 12 12:47:04 2026
    Hi Ben,

    I saw Sean's post, we'll miss him. We met in person in the late 90s when
    we met in IL on our way up to NY to pass along some Commodore 64 stuff we were no longer using. Met at a Cracker Barrel, first time we'd been to one of them. Then we met again at several of the picnics in the early 2000's.

    I'll miss Dave too. I liked his sense of humor and intentional typos.

    He was the echo crumudgeron--and would probably have freely admitted so.
    Did you ever hear about how he got his nickname--Uncle Dirty Dave or
    UDD?


    Speaking of sewing, yesterday i mended pajamas and sandals. The
    pajamas had a draw string through a.. hem? The dryer had ripped a gap open in
    the hem about half way in the middle, and and pulled the drawstring
    part way out through that gap. I used a safety pin to pull the string back through the hem, and then hand stitched the gap.

    That part is properly called a casing; hems are at the bottom. Still,
    good going. I use a safety pin most often for jobs like that, have tried commercial bodkins (grabber things) but the pins work just as well, or
    better.

    The sandals were Keen brand. The outside of the heel has a
    triangular BC> shaped leather piece sewed to three thick nylon straps
    in different BC> directions, plus a soft inside liner. It looked to me
    like the BC> connection between the nylon strap and the leather was
    flimsy to begin BC> with, and it simply came apart. I used the biggest
    needle i had. I BC> cut a denim patch and put it against the inside
    liner. I stitched BC> through BC> the leather, the nylon strap, and the
    denim patch, and now it seems BC> thoroughly re-connected.

    That's definatly a hand sewing project unless you have a heavy duty shoe
    making machine. Our Juki sewing machine is heavy enough but the location
    of the repair sounds like a hand repair job was what was needed. Last
    time I sat down at the sewing machine was a couple of weeks ago to make
    some scrappy kitty toys for my sister's cat. Scraps of denim and a bag
    of fiberfill plus a bit of time made for an easy project.


    Here's a classic Pumpkin pie recipe. I'd probably use less sugar and cinnamon and more ginger if it were me. Plus a pinch of clove powder.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pumpkin Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie

    Pastry; for one-crust pie
    - (10")
    3 Eggs
    1 c Sugar (237 ml)
    2 3/4 c Canned pumpkin (650 ml)
    2 1/4 c Evaporated milk (532 ml)
    1 1/2 ts Ground cinnamon (7 ml)
    3/4 ts Salt (4 ml)
    3/4 ts Ground ginger (4 ml)
    1/2 ts Ground cloves (2 ml)

    Very often we've gotten a fresh pumpkin, drawn a face on it with a
    marker and set it out for halloween. Afterwards I'll cut it up, cook it
    down in the pressure cooker and freeze the results for later use. Since
    Steve's birthday is right near halloween, I used to make him a pumpkin
    pie. Since his mom gave us the recipe in the early 90's, tho, I make a
    pumpkin roll instead. Not really any more effort than a pie but the
    results are (IMO), much tastier.

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    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jan 14 07:23:26 2026
    Re: Pie Crust
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Mon Jan 12 2026 12:47 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    He was the echo crumudgeron--and would probably have freely admitted so. Did you ever hear about how he got his nickname--Uncle Dirty Dave or UDD?

    I did not hear about that. Would you be willing to tell me? :-)

    That part is properly called a casing; hems are at the bottom. Still, good going.

    Thanks for that information. Casting around online, i also found it listed
    in Wikipedia's sewing glossary.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_sewing_terms

    Last time
    I sat down at the sewing machine was a couple of weeks ago to make some scrappy kitty toys for my sister's cat. Scraps of denim and a bag of fiberfill plus a bit of time made for an easy project.

    That's fun. I recall hearing a mother talk about being concerned with how
    much time her son was spending in front of screens. The only thing she
    found that could compete with screen time was his love of playing with
    small animals, such as cats.

    Very often we've gotten a fresh pumpkin, drawn a face on it with a marker and set it out for halloween. Afterwards I'll cut it up, cook it down in the pressure cooker and freeze the results for later use. Since Steve's birthday is right near halloween, I used to make him a pumpkin pie. Since his mom gave us the recipe in the early 90's, tho, I make a pumpkin roll instead. Not really any more effort than a pie but the results are (IMO), much tastier.

    I know someone who insists on pie pumpkins. I've made desserts out of jackolantern pumpkins and thought they turned out just fine. So i guess it
    is a matter of taste. I believe i have your pumpkin roll recipe...

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Ruth's Pumpkin Roll
    Categories: Desserts, Squash, Cheese, Nuts
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 lg Eggs
    2/3 c Pumpkin puree; fresh or
    - canned
    1 c Sugar
    1 ts Baking soda
    1/2 ts Cinnamon
    3/4 c Flour

    MMMMM-------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    2 tb Soft butter
    8 oz Cream cheese; softened
    3/4 ts Vanilla
    1 c Powdered sugar
    Cinnamon; to taste

    Mix together and pour into a greased and parchment paper lined
    10x15". Sprinkle with chopped walnuts. (I put them in the filling,
    less chance of breaking the cake.)

    Bake @ 375?F/190?C for 10 to 15 minutes (until tests
    done). Turn out onto a towel (not terry cloth) sprinkled with
    granulated sugar, peel off paper and roll with towel. Let cool on
    wire rack. (I turn it onto a wire rack, slide it from there onto
    the towel, peel off the paper and roll--easier than trying to turn
    a hot pan over onto a towel.)

    Mix together, spread on cool, unrolled cake (I add the nuts to the
    spread filling). Re-roll, sprinkle with a bit more powdered sugar.

    Ruth's Notes: My variants are in (). I use whole wheat pastry flour
    and raw sugar for the cake. Mom gave me this recipe in 1992; we've
    made it at least once a year since then. Canned or fresh pumpkin
    may be used but be sure to drain the fresh pumpkin well. If I use
    frozen pumpkin, I turn the thawed pumpkin into a paper towel lined
    strainer so as much water as possible drains off.

    Recipe FROM: Ruth Haffly on National Cooking Echo

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wed Jan 14 08:53:00 2026
    He was the echo crumudgeron--and would probably have freely admitted so.
    Did you ever hear about how he got his nickname--Uncle Dirty Dave or
    UDD?

    I often wondered about that.

    Mike
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Thu Jan 15 13:28:48 2026
    Hi Ben,

    He was the echo crumudgeron--and would probably have freely admitted so. Did you ever hear about how he got his nickname--Uncle Dirty Dave or UDD?

    I did not hear about that. Would you be willing to tell me? :-)

    When he was younger (he didn't say how young), he worked as a
    projectionist in a movie theater that showed movies not suitable for
    children. At the time he was also dating (?, maybe just good friends, I
    don't remember exactly what he said the relationship was) a woman who
    had a teen age son. They knew several Dave/Davids and the son gave them
    all nicknames to tell them apart, using Uncle as an honorific title.
    Based on his place of employment, Dave Drum became Uncle Dirty Dave to
    this young man. I've forgotten how/why he started using it on the echo
    but I always thought of him as more of a teddy bear than UDD. (G)


    That part is properly called a casing; hems are at the bottom. Still, good going.

    Thanks for that information. Casting around online, i also found it listed in Wikipedia's sewing glossary.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_sewing_terms

    I've got a number of sewing books that have lists like that in it. Good
    for beginners and for those of us that come across the new to them
    terminology.

    Last time RH> I sat down at the sewing machine was a couple of weeks
    ago to make some RH> scrappy kitty toys for my sister's cat. Scraps of
    denim and a bag of RH> fiberfill plus a bit of time made for an easy
    project.

    That's fun. I recall hearing a mother talk about being concerned with
    how much time her son was spending in front of screens. The only
    thing she found that could compete with screen time was his love of playing with
    small animals, such as cats.

    A fishing pole is a good cat toy--tie something to the end of the line,
    cast and reel in. I've a friend that owned several cats and they all
    enjoyed chasing whatever was at the end of the line. With our older
    daughter's cats, Steve would have them chase a laser pointer. When he
    wanted to stop, he'd "run the spot" under a piece of furniture. Cats
    would sit, watching it, for hours so he'd resume the play by "running
    the spot" back out from under the furniture piece.

    Very often we've gotten a fresh pumpkin, drawn a face on it with a
    marker RH> and set it out for halloween. Afterwards I'll cut it up, cook
    it down in RH> the pressure cooker and freeze the results for later use.
    Since Steve's RH> birthday is right near halloween, I used to make him a pumpkin pie. Since RH> his mom gave us the recipe in the early 90's,
    tho, I make a pumpkin roll RH> instead. Not really any more effort than
    a pie but the results are (IMO), RH> much tastier.

    I know someone who insists on pie pumpkins. I've made desserts out of jackolantern pumpkins and thought they turned out just fine. So i
    guess it is a matter of taste. I believe i have your pumpkin roll recipe...


    Title: Ruth's Pumpkin Roll
    Categories: Desserts, Squash, Cheese, Nuts
    Yield: 8 Servings

    That's it! Don't know if Dave ever made it but it is now out in the vast universe of recipies. A few years ago, for some reason, I couldn't make
    it for Steve's birthday so we bought a roll at Wegman's. As good as
    Wegman's is for a lot of things, their pumpkin roll doesn't measure up
    to my home made one. (G)

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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MIKE POWELL on Thu Jan 15 13:47:41 2026
    Hi Mike,

    He was the echo crumudgeron--and would probably have freely admitted
    so. > Did you ever hear about how he got his nickname--Uncle Dirty
    Dave or
    UDD?

    I often wondered about that.

    I wrote a note to Ben today, explaining, as best as I remember Dave
    telling, how he got the nickname. It's so out of his character, it's
    funny.

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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sun Jan 18 10:31:00 2026
    When he was younger (he didn't say how young), he worked as a
    projectionist in a movie theater that showed movies not suitable for children. At the time he was also dating (?, maybe just good friends, I
    don't remember exactly what he said the relationship was) a woman who
    had a teen age son. They knew several Dave/Davids and the son gave them
    all nicknames to tell them apart, using Uncle as an honorific title.
    Based on his place of employment, Dave Drum became Uncle Dirty Dave to
    this young man. I've forgotten how/why he started using it on the echo
    but I always thought of him as more of a teddy bear than UDD. (G)

    That is hilarious. :D

    Mike


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MIKE POWELL on Mon Jan 19 14:58:39 2026
    Hi Mike,

    When he was younger (he didn't say how young), he worked as a projectionist in a movie theater that showed movies not suitable for children. At the time he was also dating (?, maybe just good
    friends, I > don't remember exactly what he said the relationship was)
    a woman who > had a teen age son. They knew several Dave/Davids and
    the son gave them > all nicknames to tell them apart, using Uncle as
    an honorific title.
    Based on his place of employment, Dave Drum became Uncle Dirty Dave
    to > this young man. I've forgotten how/why he started using it on the echo > but I always thought of him as more of a teddy bear than UDD.
    (G)

    That is hilarious. :D

    I'm sure he thought it was also. IIRC, he was either on the echo when I
    joined in late January, 1994 or joined shortly afterwards. There isn't
    nearly the traffic here that there was back then, a number of folks have
    passed away and a lot more quit the echo for the internet. It was always
    fun when we had the chance to meet other members--get to put faces
    behind the posters and get to know them better, on a more personal
    level. We met up with Nancy Backus a number of times since she lived in Rochester, NY, not too far from where Steve grew up. We still, from time
    to time when we're in the area, go to the sushi place she introduced us
    to.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wed Jan 21 08:18:00 2026
    I'm sure he thought it was also. IIRC, he was either on the echo when I joined in late January, 1994 or joined shortly afterwards. There isn't
    nearly the traffic here that there was back then, a number of folks have passed away and a lot more quit the echo for the internet. It was always
    fun when we had the chance to meet other members--get to put faces
    behind the posters and get to know them better, on a more personal
    level. We met up with Nancy Backus a number of times since she lived in Rochester, NY, not too far from where Steve grew up. We still, from time
    to time when we're in the area, go to the sushi place she introduced us
    to.

    IIRC, we lost a few when "Doc" threatened to take his system down. Dale
    and I worked to get a user or two to start using my system instead. Dave
    stuck around, but another one or two tried it a few times then stopped.

    I have heard about the picnics. Sounds like there used to be a fairly
    good crowd here. Still more discussion than many other places on the BBS networks. ;)

    Mike
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MIKE POWELL on Thu Jan 22 12:27:55 2026
    Hi Mike,

    I'm sure he thought it was also. IIRC, he was either on the echo
    when I > joined in late January, 1994 or joined shortly afterwards.
    There isn't > nearly the traffic here that there was back then, a
    number of folks have > passed away and a lot more quit the echo for
    the internet. It was always > fun when we had the chance to meet other members--get to put faces

    IIRC, we lost a few when "Doc" threatened to take his system down.
    Dale and I worked to get a user or two to start using my system
    instead. Dave stuck around, but another one or two tried it a few
    times then stopped.

    We've tried to stay with one source of getting mail; IIRC, we've had
    maybe 3 or 4 places we've pointed off of over the years. We've had some
    others as back ups, used Dale for a while after Katrina knocked Marc
    Lewis for a loop. He got back on his feet and we went back to pointing
    off of him, do so to this day.


    I have heard about the picnics. Sounds like there used to be a fairly good crowd here. Still more discussion than many other places on the
    BBS networks. ;)

    The first picnic we went to in 2007 hosted by the Shipps had a pretty
    good turn out, second one in 2008 hosted by Janis had maybe about half
    that number. We had to skip the 2009 one, then xxCarol had a small
    gathering in 2010 that we attended. We got to a few more over the next
    few years, hosted what has been the last one in 2019. Michal, Nancy,
    Dale & Gail and Mark Lewis all enjoyed a good time around our kitchen
    table. Haven't heard from Mark in some time and know that Michael, Nancy
    & Dale are gone, don't know how Gail is doing.

    It was fun getting together with the various echo members but the one on
    one time we had to share with some of them was extra special. We like to
    go to Taste of Japan in West Henrietta; Nancy introduced us to that
    place. Last year we were in the area; the restaurant Steve's sibllings
    wanted to go to was closed so we suggested ToJ. I think some of his siblings/spouses made plans to go back another time. (G)

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    Ruth
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sat Jan 24 09:38:42 2026
    We've tried to stay with one source of getting mail; IIRC, we've had
    maybe 3 or 4 places we've pointed off of over the years. We've had some others as back ups, used Dale for a while after Katrina knocked Marc
    Lewis for a loop. He got back on his feet and we went back to pointing
    off of him, do so to this day.

    Yeah, I know some that point try to have three or more, but that could be
    more in part because certain networks are only available certain places.

    The first picnic we went to in 2007 hosted by the Shipps had a pretty
    good turn out, second one in 2008 hosted by Janis had maybe about half
    that number. We had to skip the 2009 one, then xxCarol had a small
    gathering in 2010 that we attended. We got to a few more over the next
    few years, hosted what has been the last one in 2019. Michal, Nancy,
    Dale & Gail and Mark Lewis all enjoyed a good time around our kitchen
    table. Haven't heard from Mark in some time and know that Michael, Nancy
    & Dale are gone, don't know how Gail is doing.

    I have not seen xxCarol in a while, either.

    It was fun getting together with the various echo members but the one on
    one time we had to share with some of them was extra special. We like to
    go to Taste of Japan in West Henrietta; Nancy introduced us to that
    place. Last year we were in the area; the restaurant Steve's sibllings
    wanted to go to was closed so we suggested ToJ. I think some of his siblings/spouses made plans to go back another time. (G)

    That is a nice memory that you can continue to share. ;)

    Mike

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Mike Powell on Sat Jan 24 15:41:54 2026
    Hi Mike,

    We've tried to stay with one source of getting mail; IIRC, we've had maybe 3 or 4 places we've pointed off of over the years. We've had
    some > others as back ups, used Dale for a while after Katrina knocked Marc
    Lewis for a loop. He got back on his feet and we went back to
    pointing > off of him, do so to this day.

    Yeah, I know some that point try to have three or more, but that could
    be more in part because certain networks are only available certain places.

    Got to make do with what you have available. Back in 1996, Steve was in
    Korea and the apartment house where the guy I pointed with was hit by lightning. His equipment fried and I was without Fido for about 3
    months. Finally got back into it thanks to someone we pointed from for
    the next (IIRC) about 8 years. When he retired, we went with Marc Lewis;
    I think probably close to 25 years now.

    Dale & Gail and Mark Lewis all enjoyed a good time around our
    kitchen > table. Haven't heard from Mark in some time and know that Michael, Nancy > & Dale are gone, don't know how Gail is doing.

    I have not seen xxCarol in a while, either.

    Come to think about it, I haven't either. Hope she doesn't get hit too
    hard with the storm system (due to hit us shortly) that will travel up
    the East Coast. I've a mock chili (goat meat, peppers, onion and a can
    of diced tomatoes in the baby crock pot for supper--if the power goes
    out, we'll move it to the camper to finish.

    It was fun getting together with the various echo members but the
    one on > one time we had to share with some of them was extra special.
    We like to > go to Taste of Japan in West Henrietta; Nancy introduced
    us to that
    place. Last year we were in the area; the restaurant Steve's
    sibllings > wanted to go to was closed so we suggested ToJ. I think
    some of his
    siblings/spouses made plans to go back another time. (G)

    That is a nice memory that you can continue to share. ;)

    Yes, and it's nice that the owner and his wife remember us even tho we
    may get there every couple of years or so. Last time we were there,
    after Steve's siblings/spouses left, we stayed and had a nice chat with
    them. It was a quiet Monday night, not too much business so we had a
    good visit. We'll probably get up to western NY sometime this spring and
    will try to get over to ToJ again.

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    Ruth
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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Mon Jan 26 09:02:00 2026
    Come to think about it, I haven't either. Hope she doesn't get hit too
    hard with the storm system (due to hit us shortly) that will travel up
    the East Coast. I've a mock chili (goat meat, peppers, onion and a can
    of diced tomatoes in the baby crock pot for supper--if the power goes
    out, we'll move it to the camper to finish.

    Sounds delicious, you will have to let us know how it turns out.

    Also, I am curious what makes it "mock"... sounds like a chili to me! ;)

    Mike
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MIKE POWELL on Tue Jan 27 12:27:11 2026
    Hi Mike,

    Come to think about it, I haven't either. Hope she doesn't get hit
    too > hard with the storm system (due to hit us shortly) that will
    travel up > the East Coast. I've a mock chili (goat meat, peppers,
    onion and a can > of diced tomatoes in the baby crock pot for
    supper--if the power goes > out, we'll move it to the camper to
    finish.

    Sounds delicious, you will have to let us know how it turns out.

    It turned out pretty good. I cooked up some whole wheat spiral pasta to
    put under it. And, it turns out, we kept our power on and water running
    thru the pipes even tho we had rain, freezing rain, snow and sleet.
    Primary roads are clear but it'll be a while before all secondary roads
    are.


    Also, I am curious what makes it "mock"... sounds like a chili to me!
    ;)

    My usual chili takes a lot more time/fuss. I'll put in an assortment of peppers, meat will be usually be beef but used a combo of beef, goat and
    elk in a prize winning chili. I'll also use onions, tomatoes (diced and
    paste), then cook it long and low, letting it really combine flavors.
    That's my competition style chili; I also make a family friendly one
    with ground beef, bell pepper, onion, beans, tomato, corn and various
    powdered peppers. It's milder, more for those that don't like it hot
    (but it has also won a couple of cook offs). UDD introduced me to the
    first version of chili; the second (family friendly) is a take off on
    what Steve and I grew up with.

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    Ruth
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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thu Jan 29 08:05:00 2026
    Also, I am curious what makes it "mock"... sounds like a chili to me!
    ;)

    My usual chili takes a lot more time/fuss. I'll put in an assortment of peppers, meat will be usually be beef but used a combo of beef, goat and
    elk in a prize winning chili. I'll also use onions, tomatoes (diced and paste), then cook it long and low, letting it really combine flavors.
    That's my competition style chili; I also make a family friendly one
    with ground beef, bell pepper, onion, beans, tomato, corn and various powdered peppers. It's milder, more for those that don't like it hot
    (but it has also won a couple of cook offs). UDD introduced me to the
    first version of chili; the second (family friendly) is a take off on
    what Steve and I grew up with.

    OK, so now I know that "mock" means not competition level. :)

    Mike
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MIKE POWELL on Fri Jan 30 17:01:18 2026
    Hi Mike,

    Also, I am curious what makes it "mock"... sounds like a chili
    to me! > MP> ;)

    My usual chili takes a lot more time/fuss. I'll put in an assortment
    of > peppers, meat will be usually be beef but used a combo of beef,
    goat and > elk in a prize winning chili. I'll also use onions,
    tomatoes (diced and > paste), then cook it long and low, letting it
    really combine flavors. > That's my competition style chili; I also
    make a family friendly one
    with ground beef, bell pepper, onion, beans, tomato, corn and
    various > powdered peppers. It's milder, more for those that don't
    like it hot
    (but it has also won a couple of cook offs). UDD introduced me to
    the > first version of chili; the second (family friendly) is a take
    off on > what Steve and I grew up with.

    OK, so now I know that "mock" means not competition level. :)

    Or in this case, just a throw together of some of my usual chili
    ingredients. (G)

    We're due for a big snow storm over the week end so we went to Wegman's
    today to get a few things. Don't need bread, milk or eggs but picked up
    some kimmelweck rolls and beef for supper tonight as well as a bagged
    salad. Also got some split peas to use with a ham bone (probably Sunday,
    if snowed in) as I'm planning to do chicken soup to use up a rotisserie
    chicken tomorrow. I had to get some dill pickles (got Wegman's own
    brand) so I can make rouladen next week. The store was crowded and a lot
    of the shelves of basics (bread, milk, meat) were empty. Our fridge and freezers are quite well stocked, we have full propane tanks and we can
    move into the camper if power goes out so we're set for snow. We've
    still got some snow and ice from last week end's storm. (G)

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    Ruth
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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tue Feb 3 08:09:00 2026
    We're due for a big snow storm over the week end so we went to Wegman's
    today to get a few things. Don't need bread, milk or eggs but picked up
    some kimmelweck rolls and beef for supper tonight as well as a bagged
    salad. Also got some split peas to use with a ham bone (probably Sunday,
    if snowed in) as I'm planning to do chicken soup to use up a rotisserie chicken tomorrow. I had to get some dill pickles (got Wegman's own
    brand) so I can make rouladen next week. The store was crowded and a lot
    of the shelves of basics (bread, milk, meat) were empty. Our fridge and freezers are quite well stocked, we have full propane tanks and we can
    move into the camper if power goes out so we're set for snow. We've
    still got some snow and ice from last week end's storm. (G)

    We are due some more snow starting late today. It won't be a lot but will
    be falling on top of what we already have... ice (from sleet, thank
    goodness) and compacted snow. It won't help matters but we should be ok
    as they are not calling for any freezing rain this time.

    I still wouldn't want to be in the store here today! ;)

    Sounds like you are well stocked and well prepared for whatever might come your way. Good on you!

    Mike
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MIKE POWELL on Wed Feb 4 13:56:20 2026
    Hi Mike,

    We're due for a big snow storm over the week end so we went to
    Wegman's > today to get a few things. Don't need bread, milk or eggs
    but picked up > some kimmelweck rolls and beef for supper tonight as
    well as a bagged > salad. Also got some split peas to use with a ham
    bone (probably Sunday, > if snowed in) as I'm planning to do chicken
    soup to use up a rotisserie > chicken tomorrow. I had to get some dill pickles (got Wegman's own
    brand) so I can make rouladen next week. The store was crowded and a

    We are due some more snow starting late today. It won't be a lot but
    will be falling on top of what we already have... ice (from sleet,
    thank
    goodness) and compacted snow. It won't help matters but we should be
    ok as they are not calling for any freezing rain this time.

    We ended up with about 3.5 inches (measured on our back deck). Other
    areas got a lot more, including 17" down in Swansboro on the coast where
    we used to live. We were living there when they got 18", first week end
    Of March, 1980--saw people using all sorts of improvised "shovels" to
    clear sidewalks, paths to the door, etc.

    I still wouldn't want to be in the store here today! ;)

    Nor would I; I needed a few things but not bread, milk, etc. The soup
    aisle was pretty well cleaned out, same with just about all ready to eat
    stock, especially canned goods. I got my pickles, made rouladen Monday
    night (will have left overs tonight).


    Sounds like you are well stocked and well prepared for whatever might
    come your way. Good on you!

    We try to be. Right now I'm pulling from that stock to load up the
    camper; we're heading down to Florida soon for a ham radio event. I like
    to load up the camper some time in advance so I have time on the last
    few days before we take off to catch the little odds and ends that have
    to be done before leaving. This get together includes 2 pot lucks so
    I've got to get some stuff for a veggie/relish tray for the first one.
    Second one I'll be doing the crock pot goulash, have all I need for that
    on hand but have to take it out to the camper.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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